JOHN PAUL JONES has no need for
further feathers in his cap. The bassist, keyboardist,
and general rock & roll badass
anchored Led Zeppelin—arguably the most
influential hard rock outfit in history—and
has gone on to collaborate in too many cool projects to mention (for a few, head
to bassplayer.com). When he took the
stage at London’s O2 Arena in 2007 with
Zeppelin bandmates Jimmy Page and
Robert Plant (along with Jason Bonham,
son of late, great Zep drummer John Bonham),
Jones sealed his reputation as a topnotch
performer with deep soul, crisp tone,
and killer chops.
John Paul Jones and
his massive Manson
12-string.
The 64-year old bass player could easily
rest on his laurels, retiring to the countryside
with his countless acoustic instruments
and giving his ears a well-deserved rest.
Instead, Jones has formed one of the most
riveting new groups in contemporary rock,
Them Crooked Vultures.
A collaboration between Jones, ex-Nirvana
drummer and current Foo Fighters
frontman Dave Grohl, and Queens of the
Stone Age principal Josh Homme, Them
Crooked Vultures takes the ’70s-era riff
rock of Jones’s youth and blends it with
punk-rock energy courtesy of drummer
Grohl. For his part, Homme taps the
sludgy depths of his stoner rock past to
create melodic hooks as piercing and
direct as gamma rays.
How did this new record come together?
We basically went into Josh’s studio,
sat in a room, and wrote and recorded at
the same time. It was a very organic
process where we’d groove in the studio,
working on each other’s ideas. There was
a lot of laughing involved as well—it’s
amazing we got that much work done!
Prior to these sessions, had you ever
played with Dave Grohl?
No, I hadn’t. He’s wonderful, and we
get on really great together. He appreciates
good grooves and good riffs. We listen
to each other and we reinforce each
other and we stretch each other, which is
the best combination.
Has your concept of tone changed
much through the course of this project?
I’m playing with a pick a lot more. You
have to use a pick to play multi-string
basses, or you don’t get the full advantage
of the double crosses.
Do you find playing with a pick compromises
your low end?
No, not really. It’s just a different feel—
a different attack. It’s a much faster attack,
and it gives you more of a rhythmic drive,
especially on faster songs.
What strings are you using? Are they
the same strings that you tend to go for
across the board?
For the multi-string instruments I use
Rotosounds with the exposed single coil.
For the 4-string I’m using Elixirs. I also
use Elixrs on my mandolins.
What is it you like about coated strings?
I like being able to slide around without
having my fingers coming to a dead
stop, and they sound great.
Ever the multi-instrumentalist,
John Paul Jones gets down on
his mobile Manson bass lap steel.
What is that wild-looking slide guitar
you play on “No One Loves Me & Neither
Do I?”
That’s an instrument Hugh Manson
made that is based on the Melobar. It basically
allows me to play lap steel while moving
around onstage. In my early solo shows
I used what I used to a bass lap steel, which
was just like a lap steel with two extra
strings—an 8-string. It goes right down to
the low E of the bass guitar. I wanted one
I could hang around my neck so I asked
Hugh to make me one.
How do you amplify it?
I plug into a Bad Cat Amplifiers BC-50.
I also used some of the old amps Josh keeps
in his studio for the record.
What basses are you playing?
I’ve got my good ol’ Manson 4-string,
plus a 10-string and some 12-strings he’s
made for me. The 10-string is in octave
courses, tuned EADGC, and the 12-string
is BEADGC. Those go through an SWR
SM-900 with 4x10 and 1x15 cabinets. I use
an identical rig for my bass pedals, which
are made by Roland. They span an octaveand-
a-half—from C to G, and they’re run
through a Korg M3 synth, which provides
the actual sound. I also play the M3 for
piano and organ parts. On the record, I
played acoustic piano and a vintage organ.
With multiple basses, keyboards, slide
guitar, and mandolin, you do a lot of
changing instruments. Do you find that
makes it difficult to get into a groove?
No, I’m rather used to it. I used to do
that in the Zeppelin days, as well. I quite
like changing instruments.
Tell me about the mandolin you play.
That’s a solid-body electric octave mandolin
made by Hugh Manson’s brother, Andy Manson. I send that through the Bad Cat, as
well. Like my basses, that has EMG pickups.
How much of the gig is set in stone,
and how much is kept open-ended?
The setlist mostly stays the same, but
things really change a lot from show to
show. A lot of it depends on the vibe of the
night, but we’ll often hit a different kind of
groove to keep it interesting.
The album has quite a few distorted
bass sounds. What effects are you using?
On the record, most of the distortion
comes from running bass through Josh’s
guitar amps. Live, I’m using an Electro-
Harmonix Big Muff . I’d never really used
distortion before—it’s a new thing for me.
But the bass just sounded too clean when
we were first trying things out. Now it fits
a lot better with the guitars. Usually I’ll split
the signals from my basses and mix them
together to get a blend of clean and distorted
sounds.
Live, Alain Johannes is playing some of
the bass and keyboard parts you did on the
album [see sidebar, left]. How much did
you work with him to get him up to speed?
Not much at all—he’s a good enough
musician to have picked it all up on his own.
Now I have a few questions submitted
by readers. First up, is there anything
you miss about your old Acoustic rig, versus
your current rig?
No … except that it used to catch on
fire! It actually caught fire quite spectacularly
at the end of one show. I suppose the
power amp got overheated. But no, I’m
quite pleased with the SWR. It’s got a nice
clean, punchy sound.
Have you given thought to writing a
memoir or autobiography?
No. Several people have asked, but I’ve
just got too much to do. Life’s too short to
write about it.
Finally, one reader writes that he
always has to crank the low end to hear
the bass and bass drum on Led Zeppelin
albums. Are you happy with the sound on
the CDs, and do you find you have to do
the same thing to hear yourself?
I suppose it depends on what you’re listening
to. If you’re listening to a re-master,
you shouldn’t have to. Plus, I suppose if you compare them to contemporary records
with lots and lots of low end, the older ones
might sounds light by comparison. But I
think there’s often too much low end on
records. It gets too heavy, and you can lose
a lot of the dynamic range.
Aside from Them Crooked Vultures,
do you have any other musical projects
you’re working on?
No. This is a full time job at the moment!
But I’m having great fun. I’m really happy
to be doing this.
ALAIN JOHANNES: HONORARY VULTURE
For Them Crooked Vultures’ live shows, the band has enlisted the talents of Alain
Johannes, an accomplished multi-instrumentalist and engineer with credits including
Queens of the Stone Age, No Doubt, Chris Cornell, and Arctic Monkeys. Alain also has his
own group, Eleven. For more on Alain, head to bassplayer.com .
How did you get involved in Them Crooked Vultures?
Josh and I have a long history of playing together, and he asked me to be involved in
recording the Vultures record. I engineered “Reptiles,” “Interlude with Ludes,” and “Dead
End Friends,” and also tracked some vocals, guitars, and bass. Later, Dave, John, and Josh
decided they wanted to fill out the live band to reproduce the sounds on the album, so
they invited me in. I had never met John, but I had worked with Dave on the Queens of
the Stone Age album Songs for the Deaf [Interscope, 2002].
What do you do in the band?
I sing and play guitar, keyboards, and bass. I play bass on “No One Loves Me & Neither
Do I,” because John is playing his monster slide bass guitar. On “Highway 1,” I play bass
and synth while he plays mandolin. That song isn’t on the record, but you can watch it on
youtube.com. I’d recommend the performances from Cologne and Paris.
How did you learn the parts?
I’ve been playing music since I was four years old, so I have a pretty well developed ear.
What’s your live bass rig?
At first we thought of plugging into John’s rig, but that might get weird with different settings,
etc. So I use a DI and play through my guitar rig, which includes Fender Twin and Super
Reverb amps. I wanted a bass with a smooth sound through a DI. I ended up going with a Rogue
Violin Bass, which is one of my favorite basses. I also play an Airline bass tuned in 5ths. The amps
give me all the midrange information I need on stage, and the DI handles the bottom end.
You’ve played bass quite a bit with Queens of the Stone Age. What’s that like?
In Queens, the bass lines have a percolating character I really enjoy. There, I play a Yamaha
hollowbody tuned down to C, and an Epiphone Jack Casady. I like the midrange sound of hollowbody
basses, and I love being right at the edge of feedback. I also have an upright, a ’60s
Mosrite (with the original flatwound strings, which I boil every few years), and a Rickenbacker
4003. I just got an acoustic flamenco bass guitar—an Esteve Contrabass with six nylon
strings—tuned an octave lower than guitar. It’s got an incredible sound.
What’s the best part about the Vultures gig?
I’ve been a freak for Led Zeppelin since I was a kid, and I’m realizing more every day
how much of that band’s sound came from John Paul Jones. The chemistry in the group
is such that it’s constantly morphing and improving. Everybody’s having an amazing
time—it reminds me of my first band in high school!
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