"I like playing the roots," admits Sean Hurley, whose team temperament
and early development has led to a somewhat
unsung but highly successful career. First gaining prominence as the bassist in
Vertical Horizon via that band’s 2000
breakout smash, “Everything You Want,”
Hurley has made his mark in L.A., co-writing
Robin Thicke’s hit, “Lost Without U”
(covered by Marcus Miller on his 2008
CD, Marcus), while maintaining a hefty
pace as a studio doubler with everyone
from Ringo Starr and Annie Lennox to
Miley Cyrus and Colbie Caillat. In addition,
Hurley has been grabbing ears as
John Mayer and drummer Steve Jordan’s
groove go-between on the superstar singer/songwriter’s
last three world tours.
Born in Pittsfield, Massachusetts on
September 23rd, 1973, Hurley was raised
on radio rock and took up saxophone in
the 4th grade. At 11, he saw a local cover
band and became enthralled with the bass
player, who, upon learning of his interest,
began teaching him. A devout student,
Hurley learned reading and harmony on
“an SG-shaped Hagstrom,” while soaking
up the influences of AC/DC and Rush. By
14, he was in demand in town bands for
his big ears; he also began teaching bass
at the music store where he worked. Meanwhile,
he “got hip to Jaco, McCartney,
Jamerson, and Sheehan,” bought a Fender
P-Bass, played in the school jazz band,
and began teaching himself upright. Turning
16, Sean met Arlo Guthrie’s son on a
club gig, leading to a summer tour with
the senior Guthrie. Upon graduation, Hurley
headed to the Berklee College of Music
for a semester. He replaced Matt Garrison
in the school’s Yellowjackets ensemble,
before Guthrie beckoned again with a
national tour and live recording.
Hurley returned to Boston after the
stint, settling into the blues club scene.
There, he heard about and successfully
auditioned for Vertical Horizon, in early
1998. Another blues connection, guitarist
Bobby Keyes, began bringing Sean out to
L.A. to write and record with Robin
Thicke. By 2000, with the breakout of Vertical
Horizon and regular Thicke sessions,
Hurley moved to Los Angeles. Thicke engineer
Bill Malina started recommending
him to other producers in town. With
Horizon’s less successful 2003 follow-up
CD leading to less road gigs, Sean worked
his way up to 12-hour session days. Then
came a call from “the Mayor.”
How did you come to play with John Mayer?
I had met John both at a Vertical Horizon
show and at his own show, and we
had some good conversations about life.
Then in the summer of 2006, I was playing
in L.A. with John’s guitarist, David
Ryan Harris, and he came and sat in.
Afterward he told me he had no idea I
could also play R&B. That December, he
called me the night before he was recording
“Lessons Learned” with Alicia Keys,
for her album, and he asked me to play
bass. He kept in touch, and in 2008 came
the offer to do his summer tour, which
was a blast. After it ended, John went in to make Battle Studies with Steve Jordan
and Pino Palladino. With the next tour
approaching, John called me to come and
play with him and Steve so they could try
out a keyboardist. It was in a little room
and they had my Ampeg B-15 there; we
just jammed on cover tunes and it was my
first time playing with Steve, which was
a watershed moment for me! Steve seemed
to dig it, and I got invited to do the 7-
month tour. This year, Steve had to move
on to another project after the first part
of the tour, so Keith Carlock is playing
drums.
How much freedom do you get with the
bass parts?
I’m pretty reverent about that; I try to
play the parts as close as I can to what
Dave LaBruyere and Pino did on the
albums, unless the groove has changed,
like on “Why Georgia.” I’m giving the parts
my translation, but the original is still my
intent. However, John definitely leaves it
up to the player. Before we hit the stage
he’ll say something like, “Play without fear,” or “Take chances and make some
mistakes,” or “Do your thing; play what
you’re feeling.” Most times the intros
are where it’s really loose; like on “Vultures”;
John will just start playing
something and I’ll let it simmer for 8 bars
or so and I’ll make up a groove and start
playing. Then Keith will join in, and we
find our way to the song. Ultimately, it
becomes this self-policing, inward challenge;
like, Oh, man, I came up with
something better last night—I’ll play
something cooler tomorrow!
What kind of calls are you getting as an
L.A. session bassist?
The scenes I’m involved with are rock,
singer-songwriter, young artists pop, and the
occasional film date. I haven’t worked much
on the hip hop, modern R&B side, other than
with Robin Thicke. The bass guitar hasn’t
really reemerged to supplant synth bass in
those circles yet. For me, it’s a mixed bag of
doing a new artist’s demo one day and an
established artist’s single or album the next.
Similarly, I can be playing with some new
players on one date and studio legends at the
next. If your goal is to play bass for other people,
L.A. has that in spades; you have almost
every style of music here, and everyone has
home studios. I’d say 60% of my calls are at
home studios. When I started in ’02, most of
my calls were for bass alone, but from ’05 to
now I’m almost always playing with at least
a drummer and usually with a full rhythm section—
often with the artist present. In that
regard, the pendulum has definitely swung
back. Also, while I mostly played my Jazz Bass
when I broke in, now it’s predominantly a P-Bass
world. If you have a lot of guitar going
on, the P-Bass has that little bit of snot to cut
through, so the only real question is flatwounds
or roundwounds. The other interesting aspect
I’ve noted is while drummers, guitarists, and
keyboardists tend to get pigeonholed stylistically,
bass players have a much easier time
genre-hopping.
How do you typically come up with bass
lines on sessions?
Nowadays, very few folks send you songs
in advance, so first I’ll go into the control
room with pencil and music paper, listen to
the song, and write out a chord chart. Then,
you usually have a discussion with the producer
or artist as to what they’re going for.
Once the particulars of what the drummer is
going to play and what I do in response are
set, it’s mainly about what you can do to make
the track special, whether it’s adding a passing
tone here, or laying out there. I feel like
I’m good at reading the room, taking direction,
and giving the producer what they want.
Really, the hard part is coming up with the
song; If I’m coming in to play on a good song,
the part comes quickly. In rare cases where
I’m asked to step out and lead the track, I
usually draw from tunes like [the Beatles’]
“Come Together” or [Marvin Gaye’s] “Inner
City Blues,” and I try to come up with a part
that can stand on its own with just the vocal.
How do you navigate playing regularly
with a rotation of top drummers?
Well, for the most part, we’re all playing
to a click in the studio, so what’s fascinating
and exciting for me, being lucky enough to
work with these drummers, is how differently
each one plays while still all being locked into
the pulse. Some drummers sit a bit behind,
for which I’ll tend to play right on the beat;
others play on the front side, so I can lay back
my notes a bit more. Generally, I always feel
like the drummer is the leader of the band.
On a session, the drummer is usually going
to set the tone with regard to the shape of the
track and how everyone else reacts to them. I consider myself in their service, working
with them as opposed to trying to
lead them or insert my opinion of where
the time is. I try to play big fat notes with their
kick drum while listening to their hi-hat
because the downbeat and the subdivisions
are the keys to nailing down the groove.
What advice can you offer to young
bassists and what do you see for yourself
going forward?
In the current climate, if you want to
make a living as a bassist you should expand
your horizons a bit; try to write, learn piano,
guitar, and drum programming to at least
a competent level. Bass-wise I’m all about
fundamentals; learn chord harmony, run
your scales, and perfect the root-playing,
supportive role of the bass instead of trying
to play fast or flashy.
Personally, being back on the road with
John, I’ve found playing live to be a vital
experience. I’d like to continue performing
with great artists while balancing my studio
schedule between writing and session
work. I’ve heard veteran musicians state
their goal as being able to play the best
music with the best people. I consider myself
blessed on that scale, so far.
GEAR
Basses ’60 Fender Precision Bass with flatwounds,
Fender Custom Shop ’60 P-Bass
relic with roundwounds, ’59 Fender Precision
Bass, ’69 Fender Jazz Bass, ’75
Gibson Les Paul Signature, Lakland 55-94
5-string, Kay K162 Pro Bass, ’66 Fender
Mustang Bass, Cremona 3/4 acoustic bass
(with Thomastick Spirocore strings, Underwood
pickup, and German-style bow)
Strings and picks LaBella Slappers
(.045–.105), LaBella Deep Talkin’ Flatwounds
(.043–.104); .73mm Dunlop Tortex picks
Rig 1976 Ampeg SVT head
(with ’74 SVT as backup),
Diamond Blue Ampeg
SVT810 cabinet, 1966 Ampeg B-15, Divided
By Thirteen TBL 200 head and 1x12 cabinet
Studio Eclair Engineering Evil Twin Tube DI,
EBS ValveDrive, Xotic Effect Bass BB Preamp
SELECTED DISCOGRAPHY
Vertical Horizon, Burning the Days [Outfall,
2009], Everything You Want (BMG/RCA 1999);
Robin Thicke, The Evolution of Robin Thicke
[Interscope, 2006], Beautiful World [Interscope,
2003]; Alicia Keys, As I Am [J-Records,
2007]; Rob Thomas, cradlesong [Warner Bros.,
2009]; Ringo Starr, Liverpool 8 [Capitol/EMI,
2008]; Annie Lennox, Songs of Mass Destruction
[Sony, 2007] Melissa Etheridge, Fearless
Love [Island, 2010]; Natasha Bedingfield, Pocketful
of Sunshine [Epic, 2008]; Colbie Caillat,
Breakthrough [Republic, 2009]
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